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- user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Well I\'ve had really good luck with the Asus line of boards. They also make a cheaper line called Asrock. It really depends on what case you have to put this in. The Intel and SiS chipset lines are good. If you really want a silent system that has some kick, then the Epia boards are something to look at. These are the micro board line which have the CPU already on them. Most are fanless which is awsome. I\'de to get one of these myself. Not sure what your plans are for for viewing, analogue or HDTV, but for analogue viewing you don\'t need alot of horsepower if you have a PVR-x50 card. If you plan in the future to do the HDTV bit, then the 3.2Ghz should do fine. As for the low noise of a system, this depends on your CPU and power supply fans. Not the motherboard in general. Most modern motherboards do some sort of temperature monitoring I would think. You will just have to check the specs on this. Most importantly, stay away from the cheap ass boards such as PCchips, Biostar etc. You get what you pay for. Oh and try and stay away from anything using an Nforce2 or Nforce3 chipset. You\'ll more than likely have headaches. Hope that helped.</p>\n<p>\"Please ignore the man behind the curtain\"<br />\nDennis</p>\n', created = 1369292590, expire = 1369378990, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:807425a7b4397aef909ec3e1193457c6' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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- user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>I always thought that AMD was much hotter than Intel, but it is also a long time ago I have been looking for CPU’s<br />\nActually I don’t care weather it say Intel or AMD as long as it’s running stable.</p>\n<p>Some question about the 64 Bit and duo core CPU’s. </p>\n<ul>\n<p>\n<li>Will MythDora really support the 64 bit technology and duo core? (Or is it necessary to compile everything from scratch myself)</li>\n<li>I can se that the duo core is about twice the price as a non duo. Is it worth it?<br />\nI like to be prepared for HD TV, but I don’t want to have a super gigantic computer if it’s not necessary. It’s just a HTPC… AMD Athlon 64 3500+ is about 115.49US$ (I am from Denmark).</li>\n</p></ul>\n\n', created = 1369292590, expire = 1369378990, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:ae39742533c15d9e0f18de415134894a' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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- user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>Like I\'ve always said, the 64bit stuff is just absolute overkill. Now if you want this to be a dual boot boot machine with another OS on it or something then go right ahead but MythDora will only see it as a 32bit environment which is all you need anyway. If you are completely set on 64bit, then you can install the disk then install a 64bit kernel then install all the remaining kernel modules if you want them. Then you will need to install a 64bit MythTV version and all it\'s remaining modules. This can be time consuming but possible. If something winds up breaking, don\'t even bother asking me about it. This is not aimed at you, just in general.</p>\n<p>If you want to be prepared for HDTV, then get something no smaller than a 3.2Ghz CPU to be on the safe side. And yes AMD is much cooler than Intel. Been that way for a while. Keep an eye out for the mobile CPU\'s, these are the ones that generally go in laptops and run a whole lot cooler than the regular CPU\'s.</p>\n<p>\"Please ignore the man behind the curtain\"<br />\nDennis</p>\n', created = 1369292590, expire = 1369378990, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:2f5cf6b3967f970890f38ce5d56457e6' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
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- user warning: Table './drupal_gding/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>As dennis said, 64bit really isnt worth the effort for a HTPC at the moment. This isnt a major issue though, because all of Intel\'s and AMD\'s 64bit cpu\'s still support 32 bit operating systems. I have two AMD dual core systems running on 32 bit operating systems, and they run fine (and it will be the same with any of the Intel chips too).</p>\n<p>Basically the benefit of dual core is increased stability (during tv playback) and the ability to do more tasks at once. For instance, i can quite easily have a dvd transcoding whilst watching a movie, playing music, or viewing a video file on my HTPC. Its also good for things like commercial detection, which can run all the time without affecting your ability to use the system.</p>\n<p>Depending on whether you want to go dual core or single core, here is what I would recommend:</p>\n<p>Dual Core: </p>\n<p>Go for the AMD system I listed in my last post</p>\n<p>Single Core:</p>\n<p>Go for a pentium 4 system which is atleast 3.2ghz (I am suggesting Intel here because hyperthreading seems to help with stability on single core HTPC\'s)</p>\n<p>As I said in my last post, you could go with the new Intel Core2Duo oer CoreSolo, but the motherboards are expensive, and the hardware is new, so chances are that you will run into problems when you try to get mythdora running. With Linux, I find its best to purchase hardware that is atleast 6 months old.</p>\n', created = 1369292590, expire = 1369378990, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '1:2335e0f53740f679dce9ea6b804f3dab' in /var/www/mythdora/html/includes/cache.inc on line 109.
Submitted by alltheway on July 31, 2006 - 2:17pm
I am looking for at new motherboard, CPU and memory for my mythdora HTPC.
After Intel dumped the prices I’m hooked on a
Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz / 16 KB L1 Cache / 800 MHz , but when it comes to motherboard and memory I don't know what to go for.
Does anybody have some experience and suggestions on which to choose? I have a sound card, video card, tuner and an ATA hard disk.
I am looking for stability, low noise and hopefully to be able to control the temperature.
Hope somebody can help me
XPC Shuttle
Since we're on the topic of motherboards. Any suggestions on the XPC Shuttles? I'm thinking of getting one in the near future for it's small size and good cooling management.
Darkk
Well I've had really good
Well I've had really good luck with the Asus line of boards. They also make a cheaper line called Asrock. It really depends on what case you have to put this in. The Intel and SiS chipset lines are good. If you really want a silent system that has some kick, then the Epia boards are something to look at. These are the micro board line which have the CPU already on them. Most are fanless which is awsome. I'de to get one of these myself. Not sure what your plans are for for viewing, analogue or HDTV, but for analogue viewing you don't need alot of horsepower if you have a PVR-x50 card. If you plan in the future to do the HDTV bit, then the 3.2Ghz should do fine. As for the low noise of a system, this depends on your CPU and power supply fans. Not the motherboard in general. Most modern motherboards do some sort of temperature monitoring I would think. You will just have to check the specs on this. Most importantly, stay away from the cheap ass boards such as PCchips, Biostar etc. You get what you pay for. Oh and try and stay away from anything using an Nforce2 or Nforce3 chipset. You'll more than likely have headaches. Hope that helped.
"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
Dennis
"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
Dennis
Since you are looking for a
Since you are looking for a low noise system, I wouldnt reccomend you go for a pentium 4, simply because they use a lot of power, and consequently put out a lot of heat. Their performance is reasonably good for a HTPC, but if you get one, then you are going to have to invest in a large and expensive heatsink for your cpu in order to keep it cool and quiet.
One of the newer Intel core2duo cpu's would probably do the job much better, since they run cool, and are just better in general. Although, since they are new, the motherboards for them are still fairly expensive.
In my opinion, your best bet would be to go for an AMD socket 939 system. Since socket AM2 just came out, AMD have slashed their prices on the socket 939 cpu's by about 60%. They also run a lot cooler, and draw less power then Intel's pentium 4's which is good for a HTPC (and your power bill :P). Anyway, I could go on forever, but here is my recommendation:
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 3800+
Motherboard: Asus A8N VM VSM (this motherboard has an integrated nvidia 6150 gpu, and integrated high def audio)
RAM: 1GB DDR 400 ram (any brand of your choice, I use corsair valueram myself)
I have a mythtv HTPC running on a system exactly like that and it works really well. It handles HDTV well thanks to the dual core, and it runs nice and quiet as well (the motherboard has something called qfan, which is a dynamic fan control system). All of those parts I have listed above function well with mythdora, so thats a bonus as well :) There is also a microatx MSI motherboard that I have heard is good for AMD HTPC systems.
Im in Australia, so pricing is a bit different, but here is what I can get those parts for at the moment (in AUSTRALIAN dollars):
CPU: $223
Motherboard: $110
Ram: $120
They are probably even cheaper if you are in the US.
Hope this has helped,
Damien
AMD
I always thought that AMD was much hotter than Intel, but it is also a long time ago I have been looking for CPU’s
Actually I don’t care weather it say Intel or AMD as long as it’s running stable.
Some question about the 64 Bit and duo core CPU’s.
I like to be prepared for HD TV, but I don’t want to have a super gigantic computer if it’s not necessary. It’s just a HTPC… AMD Athlon 64 3500+ is about 115.49US$ (I am from Denmark).
Like I"ve always said, the
Like I've always said, the 64bit stuff is just absolute overkill. Now if you want this to be a dual boot boot machine with another OS on it or something then go right ahead but MythDora will only see it as a 32bit environment which is all you need anyway. If you are completely set on 64bit, then you can install the disk then install a 64bit kernel then install all the remaining kernel modules if you want them. Then you will need to install a 64bit MythTV version and all it's remaining modules. This can be time consuming but possible. If something winds up breaking, don't even bother asking me about it. This is not aimed at you, just in general.
If you want to be prepared for HDTV, then get something no smaller than a 3.2Ghz CPU to be on the safe side. And yes AMD is much cooler than Intel. Been that way for a while. Keep an eye out for the mobile CPU's, these are the ones that generally go in laptops and run a whole lot cooler than the regular CPU's.
"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
Dennis
"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
Dennis
As dennis said, 64bit really
As dennis said, 64bit really isnt worth the effort for a HTPC at the moment. This isnt a major issue though, because all of Intel's and AMD's 64bit cpu's still support 32 bit operating systems. I have two AMD dual core systems running on 32 bit operating systems, and they run fine (and it will be the same with any of the Intel chips too).
Basically the benefit of dual core is increased stability (during tv playback) and the ability to do more tasks at once. For instance, i can quite easily have a dvd transcoding whilst watching a movie, playing music, or viewing a video file on my HTPC. Its also good for things like commercial detection, which can run all the time without affecting your ability to use the system.
Depending on whether you want to go dual core or single core, here is what I would recommend:
Dual Core:
Go for the AMD system I listed in my last post
Single Core:
Go for a pentium 4 system which is atleast 3.2ghz (I am suggesting Intel here because hyperthreading seems to help with stability on single core HTPC's)
As I said in my last post, you could go with the new Intel Core2Duo oer CoreSolo, but the motherboards are expensive, and the hardware is new, so chances are that you will run into problems when you try to get mythdora running. With Linux, I find its best to purchase hardware that is atleast 6 months old.